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Janice Letonoff's avatar

Hi, Clancy! I loved this short story, as I love all of your short stories (and novel). I am just a reader, not even an avid reader, more of an I-read-a-little-something-everyday reader. So, unlike others who comment with a writer's insight (it seems to me, anyway), I just know when I like something, and not especially why. In this one, I thought Audrey was going to be the character with S.A.D., so it was a surprise as I read to realize it was the protagonist with S.A.D. Your characters are always interesting and engage the emotions very quickly. I think you are a fantastic writer and hope you write a second novel one day. Looking forward to receiving "The Big T".

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Helen Grover's avatar

I finally finished a comment.

The way the narrator’s seasonal affective disorder influences his self perception is pretty realistic. From refusing to move somewhere warmer (ostensibly because he doesn’t “trust” happiness but the fact that he’d have to reevaluate his self image with diminished symptoms is likely also influencing the refusal) to concocting theories about barometric pressure (simultaneously providing an illusion of control because he knows the cause while excusing him from actively managing his symptoms because he can’t control the weather) it’s clear the narrator sees SAD as part of his identity and may believe in depressive realism (the half true idea that depressed people’s self-perceptions are more accurate).

I’d have liked to see a little more about how the narrator’s thoughts change in response to the seasons. He seems like a very cerebral person so I imagine his depression has a strong cognitive element. Winter as a reminder of death is a common depression thought but something more abstract like the way it drives people inside heightening feelings of isolation would work better in my opinion. I’ve also heard of people saying their brain or emotions freeze. The ice cream scene would be good spot reveal to some of the cognitive components. Does he feel like something cold like ice cream is mentally taking him somewhere he doesn’t want to be or is it just the physical sensation of the cold? My guess would be that the ice cream is a reminder of how long winter feels for the narrator. It’s a cruel reminder of the summer he can’t convince himself will come.

The line about believing in “intuition” in science is frustratingly timely with the sentiment arguably becoming part of American culture in my opinion. I like how it intersects with the narrator’s need for a simple explanation for his depression.

As a metal person I have some sort of tangential comments on the scene. “The most blood-curdling of screamo metal” is up there with the time I heard a guy talking about “angry grunge metal” in terms of funny outsider descriptions of the genre. Using death-metal in the context the narrator does is another good indicator that he’s unfamiliar with the culture. I liked the regret about the mosh pit because despite being intimidated by them I think the appeal losing control is pretty obvious to the average person. Part of me wondered what would have happened if Audrey had tried it because she’s more outgoing. Calling the pit a hurricane is a neat way to describe a circle pit to a broader audience. This is a random note but metal mosh pits tend to be push pits so flailing limbs aren’t as common as at a punk show but I don’t think that’s an essential detail and it’s not a hard rule anyway (I don’t consider this a criticism of the story so much as a fun fact).

The line about making love like a bad romance novelist stuck in my head because it feels exact but is also vague. It seems related to his difficulty understanding her enthusiasm.

I like that they do actually try to hangout again when Audrey comes back from Ecuador. I think the inability to hold on to the security the warmer months provide most of us (I’m one of the few winter people) parallels our inability to hold onto some relationships. People go through seasons of sociability and loneliness.

The closing two lines are painful and I thought they were a great way to end the story.

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